Welcome back to the Clean Your Toilet Podcast, where we talk about the messes most people pretend aren't there. In this raw, wide-ranging conversation, Jim Livingston (executive coach and leadership developer) and Ming (inner work specialist and personal mastery teacher) dive deep into one of today’s most hot-button topics: DEI—diversity, equity, and inclusion. But don’t expect corporate buzzwords and checkbox training here. This episode unpacks: Why DEI initiatives are being dismantled across major corporations How current DEI approaches often reinforce the very inequalities they aim to solve The tension between quota systems and real inclusion The shadow roles we unknowingly play in our homes, workplaces, and societies How power dynamics and unacknowledged "rank structures" shape everything from hiring decisions to household chores Jim and Ming don’t just analyze DEI through an intellectual lens — they challenge listeners to embody it. Because if you’re only thinking about DEI during your company’s annual workshop, you’re missing the point. Instead, they ask: Where do you actually practice equity — in your relationships, your household, or your hiring? What invisible narratives are guiding your beliefs about gender, race, value, and worth? Can men and women truly understand each other without trading places — emotionally, energetically, even metaphorically? How do we create a culture of inclusion that isn't forced, but felt? From bathroom metaphors to whiteboard diagrams, this episode explores how true diversity begins not with policies, but with inner work. Process work. The messy, personal, spiritual, and systemic kind. This is not a rant. It’s not a lecture. It’s an invitation: To clean the filters. To step out of the box. To stop preaching and start practicing. Because what you suppress festers — and what you face, transforms. Tune in, take a breath, and maybe ask yourself: Where in your life are you still flushing discomfort down the drain? 3e4g3x