The Talk Show With John Gruber 2e3n28

Quinn Nelson, esteemed host of Snazzy Labs, returns to the show to recap the highlights of WWDC: Apple Intelligence, platform updates, and the latest salvos from the EC regarding Apple’s compliance with the DMA. Sponsored by: Trade Coffee: Enjoy 30% off your first month of coffee. Squarespace: Make your next move. Use code talkshow for 10% off your first order. Links: Quinn tries to open a second window from the same app with Stage Manager on iPadOS. Federico Viticci: "If Stage Manager for iPad exists, what’s the point of leaving it in this state for two years?" Quinn's take on the WWDC 2024 keynote. Quinn's review of the new M4 iPad Pros. Quinn's "animoji karaoke" viral iPhone X video from 2017. My M4 iPad Pro review from last month. DaVinci Resolve for iPad. 2013 acquisition news: Dropbox acquired Mailbox. The late Larry Tesler, rightfully credited as the inventor of cut-copy-paste, and who was so opposed to modal UIs that both his license plate and domain name were "NOMODES". This episode of The Talk Show was edited by Caleb Sexton.

Recorded in front of a live (and lively) audience at The California Theatre in San Jose Tuesday evening, special guests John Giannandrea, Craig Federighi, and Greg Joswiak me to discuss Apple’s announcements at WWDC 2024. **Regulat video:** [YouTube](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J7al_Gpolb8). **Spatial video:** Exclusively in Sandwich Vision's [Theater](https://apps.apple.com/app/theater-the-future-of-cinema/id6502666560) on Vision Pro, available on the App Store. Presenting sponsors: - [iMazing 3](https://imazing.com/thetalkshow) — The all-new version of the world’s best iPhone manager, for Mac and Windows. Save 20 percent. - [Flexibits ](https://flexibits.com/wwdc2024) — Fantastical. Scheduling. Cardhop. All your devices. Save 20%, both for new and existing subscribers. - [Flighty](https://flighty.com/tts) — The first-class flight tracker for those on the move. Unmatched notifications and Live Activities. Delay predictions. Power through clarity. Links: - [WWDC 2024 Keynote](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RXeOiIDNNek). *Live audio engineering, and post-production audio editing by Caleb Sexton.*

Craig Hockenberry returns to the show. Topics include the Daylight DC-1 monochrome “e-paper” tablet, more thoughts on the new iPad Pros, and what we expect/hope for from Apple at WWDC. Also: a one-button keyboard. Sponsored by: Trade Coffee: Enjoy 30% off your first month of coffee. Squarespace: Make your next move. Use code talkshow for 10% off your first order. Nuts.com: The world’s best snacks, delivered fast and fresh. Links: Daylight’s DC-1 “new kind of computer”. Om Malik’s DC-1 experience and thoughts. My thoughts on Night Shift and its purported sleep/health benefits. Quinn Nelson on using iPadOS: “Maybe I’m just an idiot, but I spent 20 minutes trying to figure out how to manage multiple window instances from within Stage Manager.” Baffling. Also from Quinn Nelson: the subtle photorealistic reflection of an Apple Pencil on the new iPad Pros. Delightful. Jason Snell’s 2022 post about his deconstructed Magic Keyboard Touch ID button. The Iconfactory: Linea Sketch — “a lightweight digital sketchpad for your iPad”. Wallaroo — fun new wallpapers every week, for iOS and Mac. Tot — we didn’t mention this brilliant little notes apps on the show, but I use it every day. iPulse — a nerdy system monitor, with Iconfactory fit and finish. Runs in the background even on iOS. Project Tapestry: Iconfactory’s Kickstarter-funded project to build “a universal timeline for the Internet”. Loren Brichter’s 2020 “Chrome Is Bad” website, documenting genuinely mysterious Mac system performance issues that went away simply by uninstalling Chrome. Kotoba — “the best iOS dictionary app you’ve never heard of”, from Craig Hockenberry, Will Hains, and yours truly. This episode of The Talk Show was edited by Caleb Sexton.

Special guest M.G. Siegler returns to the show to talk about the new iPad Pros, the iPadOS/MacOS functional gulf, the OpenAI/Scarlett Johansson controversy, and M.G.'s new blog [Spyglass](https://spyglass.org/). Sponsored by: + [Pine Works](https://pineworks.co/) is a design and development agency with good ethics and strong opinions. World-class apps, websites, and digital products. + [Squarespace](https://squarespace.com/talkshow): Make your next move. Use code __talkshow__ for 10% off your first order. Links: + [Spyglass](https://spyglass.org/), M.G.'s excellent new blog. + "[The Problem is Safari for iPad](https://spyglass.org/ipados-safari/)" + "[Microsoft Kicks x86 to the Curb](https://spyglass.org/microsoft-knifes-intel/)" + "[Who Is She in 'Her'?](https://spyglass.org/samantha-sky-scarlett-ai-voice/)" + On letting iPads run MacOS, somehow: "[These Are Not Two Separate Devices...](https://spyglass.org/the-ipad-pro-macos/)" + "[Ovation Inflation](https://spyglass.org/ovation-inflation-at-cannes/)" + [Yours truly's review of the new iPad Pro, Magic Keyboard, and Pencil Pro](https://daringfireball.net/2024/05/the_m4_ipad_pros). + "[Unfrosted](https://www.netflix.com/title/81481606)" -- Jerry Seinfeld's zany new movie for Netflix. *This episode of The Talk Show was edited by Caleb Sexton.*

Federico Viticci returns to the show to discuss MacStories’s 15th anniversary, Apple’s “Let Loose” keynote for new iPad hardware, and more. Sponsored by: Nuts.com: The world’s best snacks, delivered fast and fresh. Trade Coffee: The best coffee is made at home. Enjoy a free bag of roasted-to-order coffee and $15 off select plans when you Trade. Squarespace: Make your next move. Use code talkshow for 10% off your first order. Links: Federico's "Maad" -- the "hybrid mac-ipad laptop and tablet that apple won’t make". Samsung DeX -- use your phone as a desktop computer. This episode of The Talk Show was edited by Caleb Sexton.

The one and only John Moltz returns to the show to talk about the relative dearth of original content for Vision Pro, WWDC rumors and guesses, and, yes, a wee bit about Apple's regulatory/antitrust tribulations. Sponsored by: Nuts.com: The world’s best snacks, delivered fast and fresh. Squarespace: Make your next move. Use code talkshow for 10% off your first order. Links: MacRumors: "Sources: iOS 18 Lets Apps Be Placed Anywhere on Home Screen Grid". Foldable iPhone: Maybe in 2027, or maybe never. Moltz's "This Week in Apple" column at Six Colors. Joz's "It's going to be Absolutely Incredible" tweet hinting at AI-related WWDC announcements. Netflix’s “3 Body Problem”. This episode of The Talk Show was edited by Caleb Sexton.

Jason Snell returns to the show to talk about the DOJ’s antitrust lawsuit against Apple. And sports gambling. Sponsored by: Squarespace: Make your next move. Use code talkshow for 10% off your first order. Trade Coffee: The best coffee is made at home. Enjoy a free bag of roasted-to-order coffee and $15 off select plans when you Trade. Links: Jason: “U.S. versus Apple: A first reaction”. Yours truly: “The EU’s Share of Apple’s Global Revenue”. “European Commission Opens DMA Non-Compliance Investigations Against Google, Apple, and Meta”. Steve Jobs, explainer extraordinaire: “Thoughts on Music”. “Thoughts on Flash”. Signal dropped for handling SMS messages on Android in 2022. Google does not APIs to allow third-party Android apps to handle RCS messaging. ESPN: “Shohei Ohtani, His Interpreter and Wire Transfers: A Timeline”. Craig Calcaterra’s excellent Cup of Coffee baseball-oriented blog/newsletter. Calcaterra’s breakdown of the Ohtani gambling scandal. The Alabama college baseball betting scandal (“You don’t understand, I have inside information!”). This episode of The Talk Show was edited by Caleb Sexton.

Special guest David Barnard s the show. Topics include the App Store — past, present, and post-DMA future — and the excellent new update to his app Weather Up. Sponsored by: Nuts.com: The world’s best snacks, delivered fast and fresh. Squarespace: Make your next move. Use code talkshow for 10% off your first order. Links: Weather Up. On the App Store. Screenshot of two Weather Up widgets showing somewhat different forecasts via two different weather sources. RevenueCat. Sub Club Podcast. “How to Game the App Store” — an unfortunately still-relevant piece David wrote back in 2018. Trip Cubby — first link on Daring Fireball to one of David’s apps, in September 2008 (just two months after the App Store opened). March 2008 Apple event announcing the iPhone SDK and App Store. Apple Newsroom post. WWDC 2010 keynote: iPhone 4 and iAds announced. Apple Newsroom post. Aaron Hillegass’s acclaimed books on Objective-C and Cocoa programming. Ben Bajarin, Creative Strategies. Fakespot — Mozilla’s tool for identifying scams and fake reviews. City on Fire — Ringo Lam’s 1987 Hong Kong action movie, starring the great Chow Yun-fat, that inspired Tarantino’s Reservoir Dogs. Apple’s nearly ruinous “Look and feel” lawsuit against Microsoft in 1994. “Good artists copy, great artists steal.” This episode of The Talk Show was edited by Caleb Sexton.

Adam Lisagor returns to the show to discuss, while wearing, Apple Vision Pro. Sponsored by: Squarespace: Make your next move. Use code talkshow for 10% off your first order. Trade Coffee: Let’s Coffee Better. Get a free bag of fresh coffee with any Trade subscription. Links: My review of Vision Pro. My follow-up: "Simple Tricks and Nonsense". Sandwich. Newton Connection Kit. This episode of The Talk Show was edited by Caleb Sexton.

Matthew Panzarino -- proprietor of the excellent new website/newsletter The Obsessor -- returns to the show to talk about -- what else? -- the Vision Pro. Sponsored by: Squarespace: Make your next move. Use code talkshow for 10% off your first order. AdBlock Pro: Block ads in Safari on iPhone, iPad, and Mac. Links: My review of the Vision Pro. Techmeme's roundup of reviews. The Obsessor. TipTop. The Atari 400, with the most craptacular keyboard I've ever used. This episode of The Talk Show was edited by Caleb Sexton.

Marco Arment returns to the show. Topics include the Apple-Masimo patent dispute over Apple Watch blood oxygen sensors, the new External Payment Links entitlement for the App Store, and more. Sponsored by: Squarespace: Make your next move. Use code talkshow for 10% off your first order. Trade Coffee: Let’s Coffee Better. Get a free bag of fresh coffee with any Trade subscription. Links: "Coming to Grips With Apple’s Seemingly Unshakable Sense of Entitlement to Its Commissions From Third-Party iOS Apps". "Like the Sixth Finger in an AI-Rendered Hand". "Apple’s Workaround for the ITC’s Import Ban on Apple Watch Series 9 and Ultra 2: Disabling the Blood-Oxygen Sensor in Software". "Masimo CEO on Apple Watch Blood-Oxygen Sensor: ‘I Really Feel Wholeheartedly That Consumers Are Better Off Without It’". "More on Apple’s Software Workaround for the Apple Watch Import Ban". This episode of The Talk Show was edited by Caleb Sexton.

Sponsored by: Memberful: Monetize your ion with hip. Start your free trial today. Squarespace: Make your next move. Use code talkshow for 10% off your first order. Links: TMDB: The Movie Database. IMDB. Callsheet: Announcement. App Store. Apple: “Behind the scenes at Scary Fast: Apple’s keynote event shot on iPhone”. "Capture" button. Tyler Stalman: Deconstructing Apple's "shot on iPhone" keynote. The Stalman Clamp, a hardware clamp for shooting vertical iPhone video. This episode of The Talk Show was edited by Caleb Sexton.

Special guest: John Siracusa. Topics: the Apple/Masimo patent dispute over the blood oxygen sensors in Apple Watches, the ongoing Beeper Mini/iMessage saga, iOS 17.3’s Stolen Device Protection feature, Apple’s new Journal app. Also, an ode to big-ass tower desktops. Sponsored by: Trade Coffee: Let’s coffee better. Get a free bag of fresh coffee with any Trade subscription. Nuts.com: The world’s best snacks, delivered fast and fresh. Squarespace: Make your next move. Use code talkshow for 10% off your first order. Links: Derek Sivers: “Ideas are just a multiplier of execution”. Imran Chaudhri’s humble home page. The inventors of insulin sold the patent for $1 for the good of the world — yet insulin remains expensive in the U.S. Destiny’s BEAVER/FLATWORM/LEOPARD errors. Twelve South’s new ButterFly 2-in-1 MagSafe Charger. NZXT gaming PCs. Power Macintosh 9600/350. Accidental Tech Podcast: A Siracusa podcast I always listen to. Reconcilable Differences: A Siracusa podcast I sometimes listen to. Robot or Not: A Siracusa podcast I’ve never listened to but probably should. This episode of The Talk Show was edited by Caleb Sexton.

Nilay Patel returns to the show. Topics include the iPhones 15, journalism in the age of AI, and what it’s like to have Barack Obama on your podcast. Sponsored by: Trade Coffee: Let’s coffee better. Get a free bag of fresh coffee with any Trade subscription. Squarespace: Save 10% off your first purchase of a website or domain using code talkshow. Nuts.com: The world’s best snacks, delivered fast and fresh. Links: Barack Fucking Obama on Decoder. Matthew Panzarino on Decoder. Sports Illustrated’s phony AI writers. Horace Dediu back in 2011: “The Cook Doctrine”. Searching YouTube for “LG vs. GE refrigerators”. Nilay’s Pulitzer-nominated investigation into how many wiper blades are on the Tesla Cybertruck. Doug DeMuro’s car-review YouTube channel. Red Lion Broadcasting Co. v. FCC. Steve Jobs on how most professional managers are bozos. Nilay’s AI-written article: “Best printer 2023: just buy this Brother laser printer everyone has, it’s fine”. Amanda Chicago Lewis’s crackerjack feature story at The Verge on SEO “experts”: “The People Who Ruined the Internet”. This episode of The Talk Show was edited by Caleb Sexton.

Special guest Gabe Rivera, founder of the indispensable news aggregator Techmeme, s the show to talk about the state of news and social media. Sponsored by: Memberful: Monetize your ion with hip. Start your free trial today. AdBlock Pro: Block ads in Safari on iPhone, iPad, and Mac. Squarespace: Use code talkshow to save 10% off your first purchase of a website or domain. Links: Techmeme. Techmeme News -- the company blog. Mediagazer -- Techmeme's sibling site focused on media news. . Memeorandum -- Political news, auto-aggregated. Gabe, on Threads, advocating for a much-needed posting API. This episode of The Talk Show was edited by Caleb Sexton.

Christina Warren s the show to talk about Apple’s “Scary Fast” event, introducing the new M3 MacBook Pros and 24-inch iMac. Sponsored by: Nuts.com: The world’s best snacks, delivered fast and fresh. Squarespace: Make your next move. Use code talkshow for 10% off your first order. Links: The Verge: "All the News From Apple’s ‘Scary Fast’ Mac Event". Behind the scenes of the "Scary Fast" keynote film, shot on iPhone. Stu Maschwitz: "Log Is the 'Pro' in iPhone 15 Pro". Matthew Perry’s drunken night out with M. Night Shyamalan -- hilarious anecdote on The Graham Norton Show. GitHub Universe 2023. This episode of The Talk Show was edited by Caleb Sexton.

Special guests Sebastiaan de With and Ben Sandofsky, co-founders of Lux, the show to talk about their apps (Halide, Spectre, and Orion) and speculate about next week’s “Scary Fast” Apple event. Sponsored by: Squarespace: Make your next move. Use code talkshow for 10% off your first order. Trade Coffee: Let’s coffee better. Get a free bag of fresh coffee with any Trade subscription. Links: Lux Optics Incorporated:. Halide: "The best pro camera iPhone and iPad". Spectre: "The AI-powered long exposure camera for everyone". Orion: "Turn your iPad into an HDMI monitor". Jelmar Geertsma -- type designer who's collaborated with Lux. Halide Router, Halide's custom typeface. Baratza's Virtuoso coffee grinder -- I own an older model, but it has the same gross logo. Camera+ app pulled from App Store back in 2010 for using the hardware volume buttons as shutter buttons. This episode of The Talk Show was edited by Caleb Sexton.

Special guest John Moltz s the show to discuss the various iPhone 15 “-gates”, rumors of Jony Ive working with OpenAI on an “AI device”, and more. Sponsored by: Squarespace: Make your next move. Use code talkshow for 10% off your first order. Links: OverheatGate: David Phelan at Forbes: Apple comments on iPhone 15 overheating. Ming-Chi Kuo’s one-paragraph Medium post that seemingly but wrongly suggests that Apple will have to throttle the U. MacRumors. “iPhonedo” on YouTube, showing Instagram heating up both an iPhone 15 Pro and year-old 14 Pro, simply sitting idle on a profile screen. FineWovenGate: Chance Miller: “Apple Weaved Itself Into a Fine Mess With the Awful iPhone 15 FineWoven Case”. “Apple Pens Memo to Retail Teams on How to Manage FineWoven Complaints: ‘A Luxurious Microtwill’”. Verge story on the high-pressure world of iPhone casemakers. Google’s very-textured fabric cases for the Pixel 4. USB-C Gate: Crappy USB-C cables vs. CarPlay. LoveFrom and OpenAI rumored to be in talks on AI device: The Information: “Designer Jony Ive and OpenAI’s Sam Altman Discuss AI Hardware Project”. The Financial Times: “OpenAI and Jony Ive in Talks to Raise $1bn From SoftBank for AI Device Venture”. Humane pin is unveiled, with no comment on what it does, at Paris Fashion Week. Mr. Do: Emulated on the web via the Internet Archive. Play-through on YouTube. Uber shamelessly breaking App Store rules in 2015, including geofencing Cupertino to offer different functionality to App Store reviewers. Evans Hankey’s wonderfully-weathered original iPhone, as pictured in Designed by Apple in California. Proof that you shouldn’t use a case. Quora AI thinks you can melt an egg. “Linda Yaccarino’s Excruciatingly Uncomfortable Interview With Julia Boorstin at the Code Conference”. The iPhone 4 “antennagate” press conference, minus the Q&A, alas. Jason Snell on the Q&A, where Jobs was ed by Tim Cook and Phil Schiller. This episode of The Talk Show was edited by Caleb Sexton.

Matthew Panzarino returns to the show to talk about the new iPhones 15. Sponsored by: Squarespace: Make your next move. Use code talkshow for 10% off your first order. Memberful: Monetize your ion with hip. Start your free trial today. Trade Coffee: Let’s coffee better. Get a free bag of fresh coffee with any Trade subscription. Links: My thoughts on Apple’s event. My review of the iPhones 15 Pro. Matthew’s photo-centric review from Disneyland. My interview with Phil Schiller at WWDC 2015: “THE top camera company.”. Matthew’s interview with Niley Patel on Decoder, looking back at his 10 years at TechCrunch. Lisa Jackson on The Talk Show, back in April 2017. This episode of The Talk Show was edited by Caleb Sexton.

Flexibits co-founder Michael Simmons returns to the show to talk about his experience at Apple’s developer lab for Vision Pro, and his enthusiasm for the future of spatial computing. Sponsored by: * [Squarespace](https://squarespace.com/talkshow): Make your next move. Use code __talkshow__ for 10% off your first order. Links: + [Inside Apple's Vision Pro developer labs](https://developer.apple.com/news/?id=5nn2hddv) + [Fantastical](https://flexibits.com/fantastical) + [Cardhop](https://flexibits.com/cardhop) *This episode of The Talk Show was edited by Caleb Sexton.*