After Sobriety, Chasing Goosebumps Instead of Highs 6r6v5x

11/02/2025

When the poet and writer Kaveh Akbar likes something, he really likes it. As a high school...

When the poet and writer Kaveh Akbar likes something, he really likes it. As a high school student, he got hooked on poetry. In college, it was alcohol. This week, Kaveh talks to Anna Sale about the factors that led to his sobriety, and he explains exactly how he manages a life that’s full of healthy, wonderful obsessions as well as problematic ones.  
Kaveh’s critically acclaimed novel Martyr! is now available in paperback. You can read about his temporary fixation on collecting basketball cards in GQ. 
Podcast production by Cameron Drews.
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